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I wanna know

What tv shows are you watching now?

What are your favorite tv shows of all time?

What tv shows did you never finish watching but want to go back and finish?

What tv shows are you interested in watching but haven’t started?

What tv genres are your favorite?

Who’s your favorite tv screen duo or duos?

Do you prefer Netflix or Hulu or neither?

My friend/roommate started watching Supernatural, and I feel like it’s my moral obligation to stop her from watching too far. She’s on the Bugs episode right now. You would think it couldnt get any worse than that but Oh Boy does she got a Big Storm Coming.

art-nova:

Suptober Day 14: Stardust

Dean visits Cas’ memorial. Inspired by the Clairel Estevez poem “Stardust

“ A love like ours,
Sincere and pure.
Deserves to be guided by angels,
Deep, into the unknown.
On a bed of eternity
Lay down its ivory bones.
Until destiny and time collide
And make of them - Stardust

plushypluto:

Deancas hug brain go brrrr

misha-moose-dean-burger-lover:

chimeracuddles:

otpdownwiththeship:

Okay, I know that this will be a blip in the spn tag, but I. Don’t. Care.

My theory: Chuck is inside Jack’s body.

Let. Me. Explain.

Okay, so Chuck can see the future. All possibilities, all realms. Free Will exists and he hates it, but he still knows it can happen.

So what does he do? He plans contingences.

He’s up against the Winchesters. Boys he specifically created to do the impossible. He knows that the 1 in a billion chance that they succeed is an actual possibility. He sees everything. Dean, Sam, and Jack are literally the only beings still left in existence. He must have noticed Jack sucking up life force. He KNOWS that Jack can replace him. So what does he do?

Chuck infuses his God power with his personality.

Amara’s depressed, she’s not doing anything to stop him. Heck, we have precedent with Amara that Chuck is powerful enough to absorb and dominate an equally powerful being. (Which we have not seen that Jack is).

The boys don’t know. Cas is dead. No one will be able to tell.

So Chuck has his fun kicking the boys around and when Jack absorbs his power, he’s actually welcoming a parasite. Chuck takes over Jack while leaving just an iota of his personality behind to power his previous body.

The boys are clueless and Jack does not have enough power to fight back. Chuck is in control.

That’s why Jack does not go back to the bunker! Why he’s content to keep his aunt locked away in his mind!

That’s why Castiel remains in heaven instead of coming back to earth!

That’s why Dean dies on a freaking rusty nail!

Chuck wanted his ending. He’s passing as Jack just enough that people don’t suspect. He’s drinking up the irony of Castiel unable to be with Dean, because he is helping “Jack” rebuild heaven. And Chuck is going to put John riiiight over there just to rub in some salt in Dean’s wounded soul.

The boys, Cas, and the rest of them think that free will won. But no.

Chuck did.

If Dean doesn’t want Chuck’s apple pie life, then he’ll die as daddy’s little instrument.

If Sam didn’t want to stay in hell content in the knowledge he saved his brother, well then he’ll live hell on earth constantly reminded how he couldn’t save Dean.

If Cas wanted Dean to live freely, well too bad boo. You ruined my story.

Chuck’s still writing the story. And The Winchesters don’t even know it.

TLDR: 15x20 was Chuck’s ending because Chuck took over Jack’s body when Jack absorbed his divine power.

You don’t know how scary this post is to me, because I had the exact same thought.

If you look at how Jack stands at the end, it’s not at all how Jack normally stands

Jack’s arms are normally by his sides and slightly in front of him. I always say it’s because of his wings behind him pushing them forward, he’s a bit awkward as he’s also part archangel.

Well this is Jack in the last episode, see how Un-Jack-Like that pose is? It’s just wrong on him, it’s too adult, it’s not like Jack at all

But know who also stands like that?

Chuck…

So could just just be a coincidence? Maybe the director told Alex to stand like that because now he carries the light… then how do you explain this

That shrug is exactly the same

The smile

For reference this is how Jack used to smile

Look at both the eyebrow movement, even in the still, Jack raises his eyebrows when he smiles, look at how Jack actually looks happy. His full face lights up when he smiles. The smile after Jack become god is more a smug smile, his eye brows aren’t even raised. It looks like Chuck’s smile

@studio-hatter please join me in losing my shit about this

deans-asscot:

There are a lot of things in the finale that don’t sit well with me but my main issue is this:

The spnfamily and the actors themselves are very vocal about mental health awareness. They have made fundraisers, campaigns, and suicide prevention hot lines. They want to give us the message to always keep fighting and to never give up on life.

And yet, the finale, at its core, tells us that you can only find true happiness in death. Cas dies because of his happiness. Dean doesn’t get his heaven on earth. Sam lives but we can see how unhappy he is through the montage and he’s finally happy when he’s reunited with Dean in heaven.

I know the actors didn’t have much control over the ending but this just feels so wrong. I truely hope that any struggling spn fans CAN keep fighting and find happiness in their lives. Because life is worth living.

Yes - some fundamental disconnect happened there. 

15x20 made SPN a tragedy. 

But many of us weren’t watching a tragedy; we were watching a trauma survival narrative. 

And that’s why, rejecting the ending is necessary, for many of us, to keep loving the story. 

mittensmorgul:

also while we’re here i’m still entirely insulted by dean getting a dog called ‘miracle’ that was effectively a replacement for cas, like he was entitled to one (1) miracle after saving the goddamn universe and restoring his own free will for the first time in his entire life, and he doesn’t get cas, he gets a fucking DOG like no… no thank you…

cas who has canonically been labeled “the dog who thinks he’s people” and “cas is like a talking dog” and “attack dog” and “purse dog” and more than I can even count, but in the end dean is not allowed to return his love confession and is given instead a dog they had the audacity to name “miracle” because after years of dean being canonically terrified of dogs, having a lot of weird trauma surrounding dogs, and being told point-blank that he does not like dogs… and after years of showing us that it was Sam who always wanted a dog, whose stories about what he did when he “ran away rom the life” frequently surrounded dogs and him living happily with dogs going back to his childhood and one of his own heaven memories… they literally chose to effectively swap out castiel, the confessed love of dean’s life… for a damn dog…

I don’t find it cute, or sweet, or “the one bright spot in 15.20.” I’m repulsed by it all.

(I mean, I love the doggo, she’s a good girl and deserves love and pets, but I can’t find it cute or sweet or want the dog anywhere near anything having to do with this either…)

I mean it’s another piece of subtext in the episode that just feels weird, like it’s supposedto make you go WTF?!?!

Because it’s not even like Dean gets to enjoy life with Miracle, because he’s dead in a hot minute. 

And that feels, yet again, as if the episode’s subtext is making a snarky comment about the episode’s supra-text. 

accidentalshipper:

lesbianfreyja:

would die to be a fly on the wall in heaven when mary winchester explained to john that she got resurrected and started a delicate love affair with an alternate universe bobby, the next door neighbor and lifelong friend that john has beef with for raising his kids for him. also their masc son is bi and both kids are monsterfuckers

Monsterfuckers am now wracking my tired brain for who dean hooked up with outside of angels

@accidentalshipper​ - in a 7x13 Bucklemming dubcon special, The Slice Girls - Dean sleeps with Lydia, who unbeknownst to him, is an Amazon (and they are framed as monsters in the ep).

Then there’s the orgy he had with Crowley and the triplets of unspecified gender, which Crowley mentions in 10x01 Black. Crowley is a demon, so…

luxshine:

Ok, so yesterday was a day. 

I am still reeling of a lot of it, which is why I have not been able to do a transcription of the panel (although the ones I’ve reblogged, made by other people, are very accurate and their only “fault” is not being in my head to know why I had some troubles translating Guillermo’s long answers as he spoke too quickly and too passionately so I had to paraphrase rather than translate literally as I did with the shorter answers, and at some points, I admit my short term memory may have failed me)

I am trying to get the panel off the facebook page to put it on my youtube (With permission from Harlecon’s organizer, Harleyquinnarts, whom you should all follow in Instagram and follow Harlecon on facebook because she’s amazing and made this possible by giving us the space to have the panel. BTW, I have heard that there IS a version already on youtube? If it is, please, please, please, put a link back to Harlecon on it, yes? These small cons deserve all our support)

I am ALSO trying to contact Adrian Fogarty, the dubbing director (NOT the translator, as some people are mis-reporting) who is, in the end, the one who has the answers as to where the hell the “Me too” came from.

Which is the missreporting I;ve seen going around, and which I need to adress.

During the panel, Mr. Rojas went from talking about the “Original” Script to the “DUB” Original Script without making it obvious that there was a different. Understand, for MOST actors, when they talk about the Original Script, they’re NOT talking about the Original English Script. They don’t get that. They get the Original TRANSLATED script, which can be then FURTHER changed by them or the director in order to fit cadence, and lip sync. 

And yes, we come again to my old nemesis, lip sync.

So he said that the original script said “Me Too”, as a reply to Cas’s “I love you”, and THEN Alejandro Fogarty, who has a TON of experience adapting on the fly, and is a very respected dubbing director, changed it to “And I you,Cas” because it fit better Dean’s lip movements.

This DOESN’T mean that Fogarty ADDED the Me Too. IT WAS on the Original DUB Script that Guillermo was reading.

He said that Dean didn’t reciprocate Castiel’s words too, but that was AFTER he said he didn’t HEAR what Dean originally said (Which, granted, could be him misremembering as he admitted he had a bad short term memory). This is not to say that he lied when he said Dean didn’t reciprocate, but that that’ts the reason why two different versions of what he said may be running around. This was when I said that then we had to ask Fogarty about the origin of the dub script “Me Too” as he’d probably be the one who knows.

He also said that while it was a surprise, that the writers had been very subtle creating the story between Dean and Castiel, and that it made SENSE. 

There are a few things I could say here about voice actor culture, but I won’t as it could muddy the issue and I want to wait until I finish the transcription.

What he corrected from my previous assumptions was that there was no Warner Bros quality control. They finish dubbing, then send it to air and as far as HE knows, there’s no WB exec checking the files. He admitted he might be wrong on that, but it’s more probable that he’s right. So IF the “Me too” was added, there would be no final check to stop it. HOWEVER, there has been no request to RE-Dub the line, so we can assume that, now that the horse is out of the barn, WB and CW don’t really care that, in Mexico and LataM, Dean Winchester is bisexual, canonically.

Which brings us back to the REAL question: Where did that Me Too came from?

Now, I want to make clear this I DON’T BELIEVE THERE’S A BIG CW CONSPIRACY TO KEEP DEAN STRAIGHT. What I do believe is that, due to a bunch of mismanagement of the series, PR, confusion of what their demography is, old-boys club mentality AND good ol’ network censorship, they may have ended up accidentally creating the ILLUSION of one.

And to be honest, I preffer to know the ACTUAL truth, which could very well be a rogue dub director (Which, if you check my previous posts, was a possibility I raised, that if there HAD been a rogue dub translator, the director HAD to be on it too), or a different audio version sent from the US.

I’ve seen script captures from the Original English Script that were leaked, and there Dean doesn’t reply ANYTHING. Not “Me too”, not “Don’t do this, CAs”. HE just goes 404,File not found, Being Loved by an angel, doesn’t compute.

So we know that DEan’s answer in english was Ad libbed by Jensen. 

However, we also know that Jensen had to re-record some lines. 

So he could’ve ad-libbed again, something different (Either by choice, or by the director’s request. I frankly don’t know nor care. I just assume that there were two different readings and the “wrong” one was sent to the Latam Translator. Wrong here to mean “not the one that aired in the US”)

And the only way we’re going to get closer to which was it, is asking the dub director, which is what I am trying to do. And I do hope that by now, you trust me enough to know that, IF the answer was “Oh, yeah, we decided that it was more logical” , I’ll tell you straight (Or, you know, organize another panel so that you hear it from the horse’s mouth just as I did with Guillermo Rojas)

Also, yes, Guillermo didn’t say the words “I ship Destiel” or “I am a Heller”. However, he DID say that the ending of the arc of Dean and Castiel having a love story was the closing of the series, that Dean reciprocating Cas’s feelings made it make sense and that it was beautiful. So he is a heller, in spirit if not in name.

ETA: I had to fix Adrian Fogarty’s name as someone pointed out I wrote “Alejandro Fogarty” and this proves that I need at least a week of sleep as this show has broken my brain.

antifacas:

sinnabonka:

sinnabonka:

fluorescentbrains:

fluorescentbrains:

  • Slash Fact
  • Jensen Ackles Has Some Regrets
  • The Spanish Correction
  • Regarding Misha Collins
  • The Italian Forgery
  • There’s Something About Mary Sue
  • Sarah in a Strange Land
  • Beware the baboons
  • Do those nuts taste funny to you?
  • What had to happen but never did: the last speculation time

And my favorite:

  • IMDb journey

@deadspn

sucking really seems to be the theme of the day huh

Prophet and Loss (punishment resurrection edition):

https://drsilverfish.tumblr.com/post/637407868539256832/its-cursed-speculation-time-worst-case-scenario 

bluestar86:

sinnabonka:

sinnabonka:

themugglefucker:

sinnabonka:

sinnabonka:

It’s cursed speculation time: worst case scenario

I’m drunk Chuck and this post is my design for the ending. Or, I am Gabe from “Mystery Spot” and i am here to teach you a lesson.

Disclaimer: I believe with my whole heart that nothing from this post is anywhere near what we are getting. It’s me being sarcastic.It’s a joke. I think I’m being hilarious, please don’t take it away from me. None of this should be taken seriously. On the opposite, the solemn goal of this post is to show that you should put all the negativity aside and stop worrying. We are up for a happy end!

You can check my opinion hereandhere.


About ep 19 here.


Light, camera aaaand action!

Cas is not coming back. He just isn’t. The best season arc ever written in Supernatural? Oh no, you are just seeing things again.

Has been to empty before, bounced back twice? Naaaah, this time it’s different. This time it’s for good. No further explanation, just take my word for it.

Regarding Dean. He is not feeling this way about Cas, he can’t reciprocate and he won’t, this was a strictly brotherly relationship for him all way long. The looks? The jokes? The prayer? The parallels with Cain and his wife, with Sam and Eileen, Charlie and Stevie? The despair every time he loses Cas? He’s just a flirty little drama queen, sweetie, and you are delusional.

Sure, he is brokenhearted by the loss of a friend, but never mentions to either Sam or Jack what has really happened in the bunker. Why? Castiel is gone, that’s enough. No reflection on the matter whatsoever, they won’t ever speak of him again.

Character development who? Dean is still an angry man with his rock music, his car and his daddy issues, with “DON’T DESERVE - DON’T CARE” tattooed on his knuckles.

Cas’ confession goes in vain, as well as his sacrifice. Dean doesn’t get the message.

Dean keeps the jacket on as a reminder how hard he fucked up with the whole kill Bill(y) idea. It’s the coal fueling his anger, you know, the only thing Dean Winchester knows.

There’s also guilt, caused by the idea that, at the end of the day, Dean is the reason Cas is dead. Silly angel puts another brick in the wall of his self-hatred. The wall so high he soon won’t need Falcon 9 to reach Mars.

Forgiveness? Redemption? Learning, discovering new things about himslef for at least the last five years? Uh-huh, thanks, but no thanks.

Jack who? Something definitely went wrong with Billy’s plan of taking Chuck out, but we just pretend it never happened. We need Jack to sacrifice himself somehow, for the only acceptable ending, so he simply goes supernova. Again. But this time doesn’t miss.

What about Ruby? What about “you made it loud”? What about Lucifer attempting to get out? “Last time it took all the archangels to cage me” anyone?

Just sweep it all under the rug and forget it ever happened, for god’s sake, it’s not like every second of the show has to actually mean something.

The issue of Jack dying is also never addressed ever again, it just was meant to end this way. No biggie. His troubled relationship with Dean? Their touching conversations with Cas and Sam? The character’s arc screaming “I’m perceived evil, but I don’t want to be” not finished? Come again?

The show is about family. The Winchester family. And following the logic of never ending brothers’ deathly ping pong, it all ends with one of them dying during the fight. To save the second one, of course.

Which one? Dean always throws scissor, so it’s kinda predestined.

How? Heroically, given his unhelthy and unhelpful tendency to put everyone but himslef first. He didn’t even have to die, we see it clearly later, it’s done just for the sake of the Winchesters early seasons dynamics. Dibs on dying first!

Bobby? Eileen? Charlie? Another twenty humans? Sorry, kinda forgot to write them back into the script after they’ve vanished.

Let’s say they are not dead, just away. That’s a happy thought, right?

Everyone we cared about for years is either dead or gone, monsters are still lurking under the kids’ beds, but at least God is dead. That’s a win!

Fifteen years, a few apocalypses, a handful of deathes - yet no reflection, no regret, no lessons learned. The message from the creators: no matter what’s the journey, you still end up where you begun.

The last Winchester takes Impala, salts and burns the dead, and finally drives back to Stanford, following the dream of finally doing law after the exhausting years of killing, being killed and all the side effects.

And to celebrate the beginning of his normal life, Sam hits a dog, for crying out loud.


Happy end!

I probably will lose my mind every time anyone interacts with this post, because it’s fucking what has happened in the final!

I CANT. I HATE IT.

I took all my knowledge on how the story works and did everything wrong. I ended being right.

@casisalamp

Yes, it was posted on 11th of November.

@misha-moose-dean-burger-lover I hate being right.

Holy fucking hell…

This is the first time I’ve seen this post and yeah I just figured you were writing about the finale being sarcastic until the end… but what really GOT ME about this was:

“I took all my knowledge on how the story works and did everything wrong. I ended up being right.”

That exactly explains everything. I didn’t even consider something so below my own worst case scenario because i literally could not even entertain the thought that they would fuck up literally every narrative point the rest of the show was building towards.

Goddammit Supernatural. We say its the worst finale of all time, but even that feels like an understatement at this point.

@sinnabonka  Uhm this surely needs to be added to the S16 masterlist:

https://antifacas.tumblr.com/post/636304055417880576 

as SPN spirals out into our universe:

A new prophet is chosen to replace Donatello. Poor sucker finds out, when they predict the absolute worst S15 ending as a joke, and… it all comes true. 

lets-steal-an-archive:

larinah:

Regardingthat postofcrossroadscastiel’s that I just reblogged, I have a little exercise that people can do if they want to see for themselves what signs and symbols can mean within the greater story.

Get ahold of the movie “I Am Legend” with Will Smith.  Make sure you have access to both of the endings.  First watch the ending that was released in the theaters.  Pay attention to all the images and mentions of butterflies throughout the film.  When you get to the end of the film, what do you think the butterflies mean?  Kind of nothing, right?  Maybe they imply hope if you really stretch it.  But basically, they’re just weird repeating symbols all throughout the film without ever making sense in the end.

Next, watch it again with the alternate ending.  The one that I’m pretty sure was intended by the makers of the film all along but the studio thought audiences wouldn’t like it.  Now what do you think all the butterflies mean?  Oh!  The butterflies are a hint to the ultimate message of the film.  A huge change has taken place.  A metamorphosis or evolutionary step sped along by the scientific efforts of humans.  It turns out the protagonist may have been doing really bad things the whole time in the name of saving everyone.  He’s been trying to make all the butterflies turn back into caterpillars instead of recognizing that perhaps there is some merit in being a butterfly.

So, while each individual is free to decide which version they like best, it seems pretty clear that all those butterflies meant something to the people who put them all in the film.  In the theater ending they just seem odd.  But in the alternate ending they make perfect sense.

The question then for any movie or tv show is which ending are you going to get?  The one made to please the greatest amount of people and make the most money?  Or the one that all the signs and symbols lead to?

With a story that has had as many people telling it as SPN has, there are certainly more than two possible endings.  Some signs and symbols may have had meaning when they were placed in the story, but years later as the ending gets pushed further and further out their meaning got obscured or left behind.  New signs and symbols get introduced by new story tellers and they lead to different possible endings.  Sometimes they only become obvious in hindsight.  And sometimes they only become obvious if the ending they were pointing to was the one you got.  If you got a different ending, that doesn’t mean those signs and symbols never meant anything at all.

Look at the butterfly, Dad.  Look at all of the butterflies.

originally posted 02/15/15,working link for “that post”

destielintheimpala:

SPNGate: A Timeline

Here’s my attempt at a full timeline of the events leading up to, during, and after the complete debacle that was the Supernatural series finale complete with sources. I’ll be updating it regularly as more stuff happens/comes to light. If you think I’ve missed anything or gotten anything wrong, please do send me an ask. Otherwise, enjoy!

Keep reading

luxshine:

nepantla-dyke:

luxshine:

nepantla-dyke:

deansweirdfantasy:

someone post the transcript in spanish. or a clip of the panel. girl help there is conflicting information on my dashboard

The whole panel is available on Facebook here!

Key immediate takeaways (I’m bilingual and I’ll go through the whole thing again later to see if I missed anything):

  • The original script in English did not say have Dean reciprocation in it.
  • The Dean line “don’t do this, Cas” was translated by director Adrian Fogarty and it was his choice to make Dean’s reciprocation explicit. so rogue director rather than rogue translator
  • It was originally translated to “yo también” but was intentionally changed to “y yo a ti” which in Spanish is explicitly more romantic
  • Guillermo Rojas (the Spanish dub voice actor) stresses that he loved it because nobody saw it coming and all the actors were supportive. He hasn’t talked to the Castiel dub actor and doesn’t know what he thinks.
  • Guillermo also thinks it’s a good move because he views Dean as never having had any meaningful relationships with women beyond just empathetic. He’s a gay Dean stan lmao.
  • Guillermo also hasn’t seen the finale yet because he doesn’t want to watch it until he has to record the dub for it, which he hasn’t yet because he’s had COVID. When asked what he thought a perfect ending would be, he basically said that these characters have suffered so much for the rest of the world that it should end peacefully for at least the main three because they deserve it.
  • He confirms he has not been contacted about rerecording that episode without the ‘y yo a ti, Cas.’ (So as far as I can conclude the Spanish dub will eventually be uploaded to Netflix as is, and my assumption is that it might possibly be delayed because the last two episodes haven’t been dubbed yet.)

Just to add because I need to sleep at some point and I am working on getting the copy for youtube and a transcript…

A) Guillermo Rojas is Mexican, not Spanish. 

b) He also thinks that it’s amazing that “the perfect manly man” Dean Winchester, is in love with another man and that it makes a great story.

c) He made clear that he doesn’t think the reciprocation came out of nowhere, but that it was built by the original writers and series’s directors in a subtle, but clear way that made perfect sense when you see everything in hindsight.

Ada, I just realized this was you! To clarify for everybody, I meant that Guillermo is the voice actor for the Spanish language dub, not that he’s a Spanish voice actor (although I definitely should start switching to calling it the Mexican dub, not Spanish).

Is ok, I figured! And my asks are always open! :)

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https://www.facebook.com/HarleCon/posts/137781151436260 

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