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A breakdown of medieval armor, since a lot of pieces are required to create a full suit.


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Sewing Medieval Bathhouse Dress

I’m a big boob person and for me bras have always been very uncomfortable. They never support enough even with the metallic wire support as the elastic strap is not secure enough and that wire curve is also just uncomfortable. My shoulders are also always aching because of the pressure put on shoulders. But no bras is even more uncomfortable especially if I have to do anything else than sitting. Which is why I have been considering testing out historical options ever since I got into historical sewing.

When it comes to historical sewing (and to some extent sewing in general) I’m still a noob and so I have been quite intimidated by stays and corsets and I’ve figured I’ll start with medieval supportive garments, like kirtle, as they are much simpler. Then I saw the videowhere Morgan Donner made a bathhouse dress and I immediately wanted to test it out too.

Some history

Bathhouse dress is a garment that appears around 14th to 16th century in central Europe, mostly around Bohemia, Austria and German states and their vicinity. Perhaps the most famous finding of this garment is the Lengberg Castle Bra found in Austria.

It’s often called medieval bra because it has cups like bra. I think that’s somewhat misleading as it was a full dress and this is just fragments of the dress. There’s theory that there’s only this left because the larger continuous pieces of linen were cut off and used for some other garment. The dress was quite different from shift, the usual loose undergarment that would be used under supportive kirtle around most of Europe at the time. It was sleeveless and tailored with lacing, usually on the side. The reason it’s often called bathhouse dress is that there’s a lot of depictions of it in bathhouse use, especially in Bohemia, and these depictions are sometimes referred as Bohemian bathhouse babes.

All of these types of garments didn’t have cups like this example from 1389 Bohemia, and there were a lot of different designs. There’s different shaped bodices, some had waist seem, some didn’t. In German the garment with cups was called breastbag at the time. In the literary mentions there was often degrading tone when talking about it, and it seemed that the writers at least thought women who used breastbag were “showing off”. When have men not complained about women’s fashion in a patriarchal society? Perhaps with the other designs there wasn’t similar derision. The writings and some other depictions of the garment suggest that it was used more generally as an undergarment and not just for bathhouse. Which would make sense as it would seen uncharacteristic for Middle Ages to tailor a supporting garment (not cheep) just to use in bathhouses.

Here’s a potter wearing similar garment with different design from late 15th century Austria.

Another one from mid 15th century Austria of a woman putting clothes on and obviously wearing the dress as undergarment.

Here’s a German example from late 15th century of a woman wearing it as a nightgown, which shift was also used for.

The sewing part

If you want a tutorial, go and watch that Morgan Donner video linked in the beginning, I’m not a good source on sewing, especially historical.

I wanted to make my version of the dress fairly historical, but I wasn’t too concerned with making in exactly right as it’s purpose is for daily use and not historical costuming. I hand-sewed it with historical techniques though, but the patterning part was quite chaotic and I basically came up with it as I went so there ended up being some weirdness in finishings as I didn’t plan far enough.

So here’s how it turned out. I very intentionally made it much shorter than it should be. Most depictions have it reach half calf. I was making it for daily use and not historical costuming and I have a lot of knee length skirts, so I wanted it short enough for that. I actually made the bodice and skirt into separate pieces that are just loosely whipstitched together so I can use them both alone too, especially the bodice with trousers.

The shape of the bodice isn’t historical. The cleavage goes fairly high and is fairly straight in most of the historical examples (especially with the cups). Even the Lengberg bra originally had crochet covering the chest area. But again that wouldn’t have fitted so well with a lot of my modern clothing, and my purpose wasn’t historical recreation.

As I was talking about the pretty weird finishings, here you can see them. The result isn’t very neat, but it’s fine.

I have been wearing this now a couple of months and I’m in love with it. It’s much more supportive while being also so much more comfortable. The lacing on the side distributes the force around the waist, so it doesn’t put nearly as much pressure on my shoulders. It’s made entirely out of linen and is very nice against skin and as it doesn’t have any metallic wires it also doesn’t press anywhere. It also is just much more flattering than bras at least for me. It doesn’t work that well without the skirt, the waist starts wrinkling and moving up, but the skirt keeps it pretty straight. The bodice is also slightly too long and it doesn’t sit exactly on my waist, so it adds to the problem. It’s not a huge problem though, it’s just a bit annoying.

I’m planning to test out a version where I’ll reinforce the eyelets with synthetic baleen instead of cord and put baleen in the other side too and maybe in the center front so I could use it as a separate undergarment without the annoying wrinkling. I’m also planning on doing 16th century kirtle bodice or the full kirtle (or both maybe as separate but attachable pieces, like with the bathhouse dress) with either stiff interlining or boning and Regency short stays. I want to test out different types of supportive undergarments in my quest for better bra options. Maybe after I’ve done them I’m ready to try Victorian corset too.

Left: illustration of a woman in a blue cotehardie, ca. 14th century.

Right: modern blue off the shoulder prom dress.

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1:Christian Dior S/S98couture
2:Givenchy S/S98couture
3Christian Dior A/W06couture
4:Alexander McQueen S/S00rtw
5:Paco Rabanne A/W93couture
6:Alexander McQueen A/W09rtw
7:Christian Dior A/W06couture
8:Jean Paul Gaultier S/S10couture


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14th century (1341) Austria, St. Pölten Herward von St. Andreae unspecified manuscript, initial V so

14th century (1341) Austria, St. Pölten

Herward von St. Andreae

unspecified manuscript, initial V

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circa 1300, Catalonia details of a ceiling panel: 1. a couple playing a board game 2. a musician (macirca 1300, Catalonia details of a ceiling panel: 1. a couple playing a board game 2. a musician (ma

circa 1300, Catalonia

details of a ceiling panel:

1. a couple playing a board game

2. a musician (male) and an acrobat/dancer (female)

Barcelona, Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya

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A beautiful - if a bit deteriorated - example of early 14th century Spanish (Catalan) fashions (and also of medieval concept of courtly fun).


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 Happy Holidays everyone! My mind started working again this time with something to do with Isabel N Happy Holidays everyone! My mind started working again this time with something to do with Isabel N


Happy Holidays everyone!

My mind started working again this time with something to do with Isabel Neville, so I couldn’t help but put this idea into practice. The first time I knew nothing more than how I would like this costume to look, but as its design got a clearer contour, I thought of giving it a context. The year in which I think she could start with such a costume would be 1469, more precisely the Christmas festivities at the court of Edward IV. 

Given the tension caused by the rebellion and the relationship between her father, the Earl of Warwick, her new husband, George of Clarence, and their King, Edward IV, Isabel could have been a little overwhelmed. She is quite young and a new royal duchess after her marriage to George, so I wished that, despite the circumstances of which she is a part, she would simply be brilliant!


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 I am just trying to represent the moment when Elizabeth Woodville appears in Reading to be presente I am just trying to represent the moment when Elizabeth Woodville appears in Reading to be presente I am just trying to represent the moment when Elizabeth Woodville appears in Reading to be presente I am just trying to represent the moment when Elizabeth Woodville appears in Reading to be presente

I am just trying to represent the moment when Elizabeth Woodville appears in Reading to be presented as the queen and apart from the fact that this horse has squeezed half of my life (I don’t like to draw horses in particular), I can say that it is one of my favorite frames from the whole story! Elizabeth’s current design was entirely inspired by this illustration, which, by the way, I love so much !! 

Well, that being said, let’s get back to work! The comic won’t finish by itself! (God, I need a break.)


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 I just finished the design of Richard Plantagenet (the future Richard III) and so the York family i I just finished the design of Richard Plantagenet (the future Richard III) and so the York family i I just finished the design of Richard Plantagenet (the future Richard III) and so the York family i

I just finished the design of Richard Plantagenet (the future Richard III) and so the York family is the first completed family in the whole family scheme that I set out to do! I did not know exactly what kind of clothing would suit a twelve-year-old child who is supposed to be part of the royal family (given that the action of the first volume takes place in 1464), so I allowed myself to create a much more mature image, probably around seventeen, eighteen? Well, an adult, if we follow medieval standards! The finality of this part of character design excited me so much that I made them their own height scheme and a simplified family tree (because why not?)

PS: I’m usually not very impressed with what I create, but in this case, I can’t take my eyes off of Richard, the Duke of York! lol


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As is usually the case when I allow myself a few days off from my regular work, I have allowed myselAs is usually the case when I allow myself a few days off from my regular work, I have allowed mysel

As is usually the case when I allow myself a few days off from my regular work, I have allowed myself to illustrate one of the many ideas that come to me during the days already loaded with so much work. This time I chose to illustrate this, I felt that it could not wait. I don’t think I’ll get over this obsession too soon, the father-daughter relationship between Edward IV and Elizabeth of York.

It seems to me that one of the qualities of Edward was the fact that he is an indulgent father with his daughters, even if there are days when his patience is put to the test!


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